Conbini Wars – Map of Japanese convenience store ratios

(conbini.kikkia.dev)

90 points | by zdw 5 days ago

20 comments

  • netsharc 4 hours ago
    These Japanese YouTubers decided to play a game, they got off a station earlier than their home and to walk home from there, but whenever they pass a Conbini they'd have to pick 6 items and roll a dice and buy that item from the 6. There's a lot of stores...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yT32QAyv6s

    • curiousgal 4 hours ago
      I'm sorry but that video is literally unwatchable! What in the world is happening with the audio/subtitles?
      • anonymous908213 3 hours ago
        Youtube ruins videos with godawful AI-generated autodubbing if it detects a video in a language that differs from your locale. You can access the original audio from the settings cog.
        • netsharc 2 hours ago
          It doesn't even respect the locale of the user interface, but uses IP geolocation and sends you HTML containing the video titles in the language it "knows" you want... And there is no setting to change this.
          • andy99 2 hours ago
            Big tech has changed over the last bit to trying to tell us exactly what and how we should think - or maybe more precisely to see thought as “friction” and want to remove it all together. This is a very minor example in the scheme of things, but I see it everywhere now.
            • shalmanese 1 hour ago
              Not really, reliably detecting a user's preferred languages has been a persistent Hard Problem in tech since the start of the internet. Every proposed alternative solution ends up having vastly more false positives due to browsers/people incorrectly setting of default preferences so companies begrudgingly default to geographic heuristics knowing it is a terrible experience for an outlier group of people.
              • deaux 1 minute ago
                Yet this implementation that Youtube uses is in the bottom 1% of worst ones. Strange how roughly every other website/app does a better job at it.
              • andy99 1 hour ago
                Why wouldn’t you just ask them, and particularly for media like this that has a native language, default to that? I don’t want software to think for me about what I want to see, if I want something different I’ll change it.
                • shalmanese 12 minutes ago
                  You're going down the first question of a deep rabbithole that eventually lands you to where every major tech company has landed.
                  • deaux 2 minutes ago
                    Got it, "maximizing ad revenue " it is.
        • anal_reactor 3 hours ago
          YouTube is literally unusable without browser extensions or a third-party app
        • AniseAbyss 1 hour ago
          [dead]
  • mstngl 4 hours ago
    Often, several stores belonging to the same chain are located in close proximity to each other so that goods can be distributed more cheaply and frequently. This strategy is known as dominant policy (ドミナント政策, dominanto seisaku).[1]

    [1] https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%9F%E3%83%8A%E3...

    • arghwhat 1 hour ago
      I can't help but giggle slightly at the effort put into presenting not just the term, but also both the japanese and japanese-romanized forms, considering that it's just an entirely literal translation of a basic business strategy. Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvNxgHTWIlo.
    • hyfgfh 4 hours ago
      Seizon Senryaku!
  • Intermernet 3 hours ago
    This is great, but it doesn't differentiate between "Natural Lawson" and "Lawson", which my partner and I have dubbed "Unnatural Lawson".
  • autarch 57 minutes ago
    I'd love to see this for Taiwan. I'm here now (on my Nth trip where N >= 11), and my impression is that 7-11 is the clear winner in all the cities I've been to, followed by Family Mart and then some stragglers like Hilife and OK Mart (it's ok).

    My personal favorite is probably Family Mart, because they have multiple very delicious vegan rice balls to choose from.

  • tokioyoyo 4 hours ago
    Pretty cool stuff! Side note, it’s always fun to see Japan-related content getting to the front page around this time, as the people in NA are asleep. Would be curious to see HN userbase %s by continents.
    • wongarsu 1 hour ago
      This gets asked from time to time. It's somewhere in the realm of 45% NA, 35% Europe, and the remaining 20% relatively evenly split between Australia/Oceania, India, Asia (excluding India) and SA. Japan makes up around 1-2%
  • criddell 2 hours ago
    In the US, 7-11 has started selling Japanese style egg salad sandwiches. I haven’t been brave enough to try one yet.

    https://www.7-eleven.com/products/fresh-chilled/egg-salad

    • n4r9 2 hours ago
      What makes this "Japanese style"? Is it the mayo and the sweetened bread?
      • criddell 2 hours ago
        I just meant that they are supposed to be very close to the sandwiches they are well known for in Japan.
  • carlob 4 hours ago
    I would really like to know some stats about the Voronoi cells, like average size, largest and smallest...
    • froh 1 hour ago
      yes! and population numbers!
  • computerfriend 5 hours ago
    Here's a similar analysis for Hong Kong: https://khwongk12.medium.com/7-eleven-vs-circle-k-5964b8f008....
  • tramtrist 5 hours ago
    I live in Japan. This is great! Though with all the overlay it’s hard to pinpoint my neighborhood. A gps loc button or the ability to temporarily turn off the colors would help! Thank you for making such a fun thing :)
    • ximeng 3 hours ago
      Yes - hard to see e.g. city labels on the map under all the pie charts.
  • wodenokoto 3 hours ago
    What’s the source for combini locations?

    I’ve actually been interested in that data for a back burner project for some years now.

  • kuon 4 hours ago
    This is fun, but I would separate specialized outlets. For example Lawson and Lawson 100 are not the same.
  • signorovitch 2 hours ago
    I wonder if this information would be a useful addition to a geoguessr player’s toolbox.
  • k__ 4 hours ago
    A few years ago, I was in Wroclaw and it was full of convenience stores.

    Where I stayed, you could go to a store and from there see the next one already.

  • tjpnz 5 hours ago
    Nice concept but struggled to find my area. Short of search or using my location it would be nice to have a line overlay (lines which go underground are obscured currently).
  • iqihs 5 hours ago
    very cool, would be interested to see this approach applied to other markets
  • jansan 5 hours ago
    It took quite a while for the overlay to appear. Be patient if you want to see the data.
  • ekianjo 2 hours ago
    There's a lot more than these 6 brands. You have New Days, Daily Yamazaki, and the competition of mini markets as well such as My basket...
    • exhumet 2 hours ago
      Went to japan for a few weeks last year, never saw anyone in the states who went talk about Daily, saw a few and popped in and was surprised by all the breads! pretty dang tasty
  • istinetz 5 hours ago
    this is very cool! I love how responsive the interface is.
  • hyfgfh 4 hours ago
    Sorry but this seems like vibe coded slop

    You cant search or change language

    Idk what is the goal here, but maybe some analysis with graph would be better, like who has the most territory or something like that? You also might need to disclosure how you got this data

  • quanloh 6 hours ago
    There was no war until a map was presented lol
    • arghwhat 5 hours ago
      It's just a name, but those franschises would likely consider it a real fight for prime real estate and customer base, each aiming to overtake the others.