I Have Thoughts on the iPhone Air

(christianselig.com)

36 points | by janandonly 1 hour ago

16 comments

  • ChrisRR 0 minutes ago
    Describing current phones as slabs? No. Modern phone are in no way too thick
  • shelled 46 minutes ago
    I will never stop yearning for iPhone Mini phone/screen sizes. But I've stopped asking for it because that would be pointless at this point.
    • mrweasel 24 minutes ago
      The smaller screen sizes doesn't seem to be something that anyone really tests for anymore. If I have to lookup something on my phone it's pretty often that I just give up in anger. Websites will have a header, and maybe a footer or some sticky element and even on the iPhone SE2/3 the result is having maybe 25% of the screen for actual text/content.

      In the review the author write:

      > The iPhone Air is the perfect solution to this, its screen size sits right in the middle of the normal Pro and Pro Max sized phones

      That's probably true for them, and a lot of other people, but I'd argue that it's WAY to large. The Air is larger in all dimensions, except it's 1,7mm thinner, it even weighs more than the SE. It's also larger than the iPhone 17, but lighter and thinner. I don't really get the need for the phone to be thinner, if you're just going to make it larger in all other directions.

      To some extend I get the larger screen, because it's just because it's not made for me. I don't use my phone for much other than calls and a few apps, but for a ton of people it's their only computing device, so a slightly larger screen makes a difference. I just wish that Apple would also make a device for people who just needs their smartphone or the occasional parking app and mobile payments, but who doesn't care about the browser, video and to some extend the camera.

      • Ntrails 19 minutes ago
        I have an iPhone SE and will hold onto it until the day they make something vaguely commensurate but better.

        It isn't like I would be rushing to upgrade anyway but the refusal to cater is tiresome

    • operation_moose 5 minutes ago
      I finally had to give up my SE2 about a month ago (battery life gone, and with it nearing EOL it didn't seem worth it to get a replacement).

      I still miss it so much. Perfect size, and touch ID is so much better than faceID.

    • jbverschoor 40 minutes ago
      The air is the new mini. With the same amount of low sales.

      It's under appreciated because of the "Pro" label of the Pro, and because of battery-hell.

      • mrweasel 23 minutes ago
        The mini didn't even sell that badly, it just sold incredibly poorly for an iPhone. For almost any other brand it would have been a massive success.
        • amluto 8 minutes ago
          I wish Apple had released a Mini Pro. Aim at the high end and give it the top CPU and the better camera. And quit making the thin part thin — just make the whole body as thick as the camera bumps or even 0.5mm thicker to protect the camera lenses a little bit (and use the added volume for more batter capacity).
        • abujazar 15 minutes ago
          Exactly this. And the profit would be huge compared to any Mac. I suspect Apple dropped it just because they're making even more from selling oversized and over-specced phones.
    • PlunderBunny 35 minutes ago
      I’m still on my iPhone 12 mini, so when I have to eventually replace it, I’ll upgrade to a iPhone 13 mini.
      • codetiger 30 minutes ago
        Am on my 11 Pro, its not giving up yet.
    • birdfood 38 minutes ago
      I too (like the other repliers) am using a 13 mini. And I likely will replace it with another refurbished one when I must.
    • michielt 42 minutes ago
      Same! I still using my iphone 13 mini. Only the camera sucks when I look at somebodys else his holiday pictures on their phones.
    • frizlab 45 minutes ago
      Same. I still use the 13 mini, and will probably buy it again refurb when mine dies.
  • pea 6 minutes ago
    That's a great idea with the e-reader.

    I would love for someone to design a great case with a built in e-reader on the back. Most of the existing ones seem geared for displaying colour photos; I'd like one built for reading, powered by NFC. It should easily sync up with the phone itself to send over articles, books, etc. Bonus if I can write on it.

  • heliographe 21 minutes ago
    > The ultrawide lens is not one I used a ton on previous iPhones, so outside of macro mode I don’t really miss it. I’m surprised though that I really miss the telephoto lens. There’s so many options where I want to see something that’s further away, like something when watching sports, or even a cool bird, and cropping in on the main sensor is such a far cry from a 5x telephoto lens.

    I think this is a situation where the enthusiasts care more about the telephoto (for intentional photographic compositions), but the mainstream user base uses the Ultrawide more (for inside shots, group photos, etc) - so Apple caters to the latter, to the dismay of the former.

    (the clear wide > tele > ultrawide hierarchy of optical/sensor quality doesn't help either)

    > Camera quality feels as good as ever, it’s apparently not as good a main sensor as the Pro iPhones but I can’t really tell. It still has that distinctly over-processed look plaguing modern smartphones

    Same here - photography-minded users hate the over processed look, but the general population must like them, otherwise there's no way that manufacturers would persist doubling down on it year-after-year.

    For a while now I've been working on a Bayer RAW only pro camera app (https://bayercam.app) specifically because I'm a photography nerd and care about full control, but I realize it's a pretty niche thing.

    • actionfromafar 14 minutes ago
      How "unfiltered" raw-ish data can you get on the iPhone in an app?
  • abujazar 10 minutes ago
    I have thoughts on the Air and all other iPhone models: They're too large. The iPhone 4 was perfectly sized and we have the technology now to build a super powerful phone of that size. I simply don't use my phone for anything that requires a larger screen. Smaller screens also encourages better UI design.
  • petercooper 32 minutes ago
    I bought one as it was on sale at the same price as the normal iPhone. Pretty good: 8/10. I have no interest in photos, don't need long battery life, and the lighter/thinner the better.

    That said, I'd prefer something smaller but thicker with no protrusions/camera bump at all. I hate the wonkiness of all modern iPhones when sat on a table. I think the last totally flat one was the iPhone 5s!

    • Retr0id 11 minutes ago
      I really want to try taking one and removing the camera/flash, to produce a bumpless (or at least bump-reduced) version. I'll probably wait for the price to come down some more first, though.
  • vichoiglesias 45 minutes ago
    Got the iPhone Pro Max in beautiful orange... and could't get use to it. It feels heavier that the previous titanium versions, so sold it and got the Air. The lack of telephoto is indeed one of the things i miss the most, but the single speaker is surprisingly good IMO. Really enjoying the design of it, feels like what i remember felt holding one of this really cool iPod nano back in the day, like old Apple magic.
  • boredishBoi 37 minutes ago
    In Australia the price difference between an air and a 17 is only $50 which imo makes it great value.
  • NetOpWibby 55 minutes ago
    The iPhone Air is super compelling to me but my Pro iPhone doubles as my camera. The single camera on the Air is too much of a compromise for me.

    Hopefully Apple can improve the Air.

  • artisinal 1 hour ago
    I’d buy it if it had a SIM-card slot and video-out. Shame those had to be sacrificed for thin-ness. I travel plenty and those features are really nice to have. The regular 17 is better suited for me now.
    • throwaway270925 46 minutes ago
      Try the S25 Edge, it has both! Also DEX and a better camera setup too!
  • kotaKat 57 minutes ago
    The iPhone Air is a weird phone but that's mainly because it's a test device in production.

    Everything on the Air is something Apple wanted to test ahead of the foldable iPhone. The weird big battery, the single speaker, the mainboard under the bump, and all of the custom silicon they threw at it (from the modem to the WiFi chipsets).

    Same reason the 16e existed, not to sell a cheap iPhone, but to test the C1 modem in production as a "finally ready to ship in beta" product they didn't slap the beta label on.

  • ctippett 35 minutes ago
    > typing is a joy on the increased size

    Huh.

    I hate typing on my phone (iPhone 16e). It actually never occurred to me that maybe I'd have a better time with a larger screen. Although I don't remember ever feeling the disdain I have for typing back when I had an iPhone 3GS which had a much smaller screen than the one I have now.

    • swiftcoder 12 minutes ago
      > Although I don't remember ever feeling the disdain I have for typing back when I had an iPhone 3GS

      The touch targets on the keyboard are sloppier, and autocorrect has become a lot more opinionated since those days. It may not be the hardware you are noticing

    • hdgvhicv 31 minutes ago
      I have a 12 mini. I did have an XR briefly but had to send it back because it was terrible - far too large.

      When the 12/13 minis stop receiving updates I guess I’ll stop carrying a phone around. Which will actually be a good thing

      Nothing (handheld) is as good as typing as my old blackberry curve though. Not even my psion5

    • bkaae 30 minutes ago
      Did you get older over the last few years? That might make a difference.
  • hk__2 1 hour ago
    For anyone wondering, it’s 5.64 mm thick vs. 8.75 mm for the Pro version.
  • ballooney 43 minutes ago
    > I’ve always been a sucker for something novel, so when something as huge as the iPhone had a quirky new model I was really stoked to check it out.

    This is just... not a life well-lived.

    • tonyedgecombe 13 minutes ago
      The whole blog is an ode to consumerism. You will have a hard job convincing people that the good life is found elsewhere though.
  • formerly_proven 1 hour ago
    Not having a second camera is insanity on a smartphone with a four-digit price.
    • klausa 2 minutes ago
      Good thing it has a three digit price then!
    • cromka 22 minutes ago
      No it isn't, if the price reflects different advancements.

      "Not having a OLED display and GPS in a 40k Rolex is insanity".

  • da_grift_shift 1 hour ago

        >thinnest iphone ever
        >slaps 0.2" thick xteink ereader on back
    • cromka 38 minutes ago
      "As a bonus my iPhone Pro can’t fit one of those tiny Xteink readers on the back, but my Air can perfectly!"

      Seriously, what do you find SO ironic about what they said?

      This sarcastic, no-effort criticism on HN these days is seriously annoying.

    • timothyduong 31 minutes ago
      Because it’d be even thicker with a thicker device?