Court denies motion to dismiss DRAM price fixing case

(litnews.ai)

71 points | by ybathaee 6 hours ago

5 comments

  • SubiculumCode 1 hour ago
    If they are price fixing, eff them.

    Finally secure a research grant and had budgeted money for a new compute workstation and the RAM prices are killing my budget, because I'd love to get at least 256 GB of RAM and that's 4-5 grand now. Ridiculous, especially since I'd like to have a GPU in it with at least 32Gb of VRAM for medical image model training, so that is also like 4-5 grand too.

    Do I wait two years and hope, or pay, isthe question I keep asking myself.

    • mdorazio 1 hour ago
      Why can't you train with a cloud service?
      • doc_ick 41 minutes ago
        That’s not necessarily private then, and billing changes based on whims.
        • riedel 6 minutes ago
          At least in Europe we are building a common super-computer infrastructure exactly for this. Tier 0 (EuroHPC) to tier 3 (University clusters) now have considerable amount of GPU (both due to demand, but also since classical CPU-heavy FLOPs have becime even more expensive due to RAM prices). Our system will be in a ISO 27001 / TISAX level 3 scope (rather relevant for engineering). The system work up to a PUE of 1.1 and will also solve part of heating decarbonization problem. We need souvereignity in research. But we at least in research we do not need each lab buying their own workstations anymore. The systems are actually also now also offered to start-ups and small enterprises that don't have the capex/opex for efficient and secure compute themselves.
  • sysguest 1 hour ago
    idk going with DDR3/4/5 upgrades are really makes me doubt the whole argument...

    those upgrades ARE ACTUAL UPGRADES, and if exiting ddr4 helps on producing more ddr5, why not?

    (and the cheap chinese makers can produce plenty of those ddr4 chips, so it's NOT that "monopoly destroying the market" scenario)

    • cowlevel 34 minutes ago
      It doesn't. They're made in different factories with different processes.
      • gbnwl 18 minutes ago
        Is it just about the factories though? I thought a big part of the current shortage was there literally not being enough silicon wafers to meet demand so much of that supply being redirected towards HBM led to a shortage of DDR4/DDR5 production.
      • sysguest 24 minutes ago
        ...why not?

        you can just sell the production line and re-purpose human workers for ddr5?

  • mesm7903 1 hour ago
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  • Woodi 7 minutes ago
    New meme discovered ! :))

    "more akin to hawks flying in formation – an activity that hawks ordinarily do not do"

    Just strange nowhere in article DDR5 is mentioned...

  • moribvndvs 2 hours ago
    I swear if they are found guilty of price fixing 13 or 14 more times, I’m outta here.
    • minraws 1 hour ago
      To where exactly?
      • brendoelfrendo 18 minutes ago
        Weaving my own magnetic core memory
      • briffle 1 hour ago
        Intel optane, of course!
    • M95D 21 minutes ago
      > I swear if they are found guilty of price fixing 13 or 14 more times, I’m outta here.

      Same here. I'll probably be so old I'd be dead by then.

    • somenameforme 1 hour ago
      Don't worry, this time the fine's going to be unprecedented, maybe even a whole week of revenue. That'll show 'em!
      • Woodi 0 minutes ago
        Fines ?? Why bother ? Immunity on the other hand, that could nicely resolve whole thing ;)